With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. One new winner* is announced every week! There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). What ammo? The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. February 21, 2022 in Glock. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. I have noticed that my G26 spring has been failing the recoil spring test.as of late. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. It's working fine now. Its never happened with the factory barrel. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. The tools. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. It did shoot fine. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. I run Zev guide rods and adapter rings on my Gen4 17 and 21, along with ISMI recoil springs that are 15lb rated. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. If all else fails I'll call Glock. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. Upload or insert images from URL. Just an excuse to try something new. I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. You cannot paste images directly. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. Thanks. If not HELP PLEASE! Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. I had this with my first gen P80. Wish I could look at it directly. Great info thank you. Thanks for the info. BrianEnos.com Thank you! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. BrianEnos.com I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. By I couldnt be happier. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. Is this RSA going to $hit already? None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. Nick29 Turns out I reinstalled the takedown lever backwards. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. UPDATE! Just a thought. How long are the mounting screws for the RDS? first off, your slide internals are not installed correctly, the metal should be showing on your depressor plunger and not the rubber and spring and it looks like your missing a pin? Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. Oh its not a logical move. SJ 40, thank you! My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. I would pull and hold the trigger, rack the slide and it wouldn't return completely to battery until I released some tension on the trigger. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. I could measure how it was off. 20+ is for 10mm. buddy19 What load you firing? I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. Would suggest taking the slide off, checking to see the position of the spring. Is this how it supposed to function? I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? Try some hot 124 or 147 factory rds and let me know if it still does it. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. How are you sending the slide forward? BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! I'm going to investigate your suggestions. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. The slide hangs up on something about 1/2" back. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. Hopefully that's all it was. BrianEnos.com I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. Yes i am. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. The problem is when the slide slams forward. Haha. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. I will say that I just set up a new Zev Glock 17 with RMR, and my usual loads ran the gun just fine, but (without checking) the Zev slide seems lighter than the OEM Glock one it replaced. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. check the recoil spring. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. Pasted as rich text. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Pasted as rich text. I couldnt be happier. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. I had a problem with my G23 that did exactly that. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. You must log in or register to reply here. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. 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