I spent a couple years in audit before moving to a TAS group and TAS is way better for the following reasons: Hours on average are better in Advisory than Audit. –  Stamp of approval on your resume. And I get the option to work from home and the office compared to audit where you most likely will be in some cramped conference room at the client site. Advisory tends to be much more niche and therefore as you develop a skillset in your chosen area, you are a lot less replaceable. Do you think the partner should be the one ordering food (yes, maybe... since they're the pickiest)? I remember seeing so many people during college trying to do Big 4 advisory and I just couldn't help wonder why they were so focused on only Big 4. Same here. That sounds like a pretty typical Big 4 experience. You will not have to go to 15 interviews to try and convince people that your previous jobs really were challenging and prepared you well for the future. Looking back, I realize how all unimportant it is in the grand scheme of things. To introduce myself, I have worked about a year at EY in their Chicago office. ONE YEAR. as well as disillusioned by the mentality of the people around me. I think advisory professionals get treated better by clients and within the group themselves. As long as you leave on good terms the Big 4 will always take you back. A real life example from one of the members of our team is a perfect illustration of this:  As a second year staff our team member watched his Associate/Senior leave the firm for a 30% pay increase with the client. consulting)...just remember that you have so many more options than Big 4 advisory. Everyone will have their own opinions about this question, which you should keep in mind if you decide to solicit advice from the people around you. Just saying -- there are a lot of Big 4 Managers chiming in here. Okay to be fair I didn’t read a the comments so this may be a repeat. Very few careers, if any, will expose you to so much so fast. There is usually too much information to remember. Go where you want to be. There's no downside. How long you have worked at the firm. My goal is to try to show what it is like as a grunt from a ground-level view. You never know the path life has for you so enjoy the journey, follow your dreams, and all that other cliche shit people say. The mentality of people at most B4 firms is extremely (and intentionally) toxic. You are still doing walkthroughs and still testing accounts the same way. Hellllllllllllllllllllllllllll no! You probably heard this before. I studied at a large public university in the Midwest. PeC only promotes you to senior after 3 years. In EY’s Chicago office, we own the pharmaceutical, real estate, and healthcare industries in the Chicagoland area. Thanks again for reading my spiel. I'm in my second year at a big four accounting firm, and I think that through a contact of mine, I'm going to have the chance to interview at a major social media business as part of their financial reporting team. Partner through staff you will all have the same ultimate goal which is usually the completion of a project or engagement for your client. Should I mention where I’m going? I’m going to be switching lines of service and it was not possible to internally transfer at my current firm. Those are the guys who will have the biggest shot of pulling you in to the group when you're further in to your career. Which I still thought was an incredibly stupid process that so full of control holes and risks of an AP clerk doing something stupid that I'd be incredibly uncomfortable running my AP like that. Also, if you enjoy working with a particular senior or manager, ask to get on their other clients so that you can continue to work for them. Currently a senior at a big 4 and got the opportunity to be the controller at a small business (20-25m a yr in rev). Yes we work late nights once in a while, but on average I work between 40-55 hours per week. Ed returns to his hotel room and is stunned to see Rose is already gone. How long have you been at PWC? Lots of staff 1’s want to get on large, widely known public companies like Facebook or United Airlines because they think it’s sexy. Industry has some uncertainty about upward mobility. They're not all like this are they? Being an audit superstar can be doable but the problem with this one is that if you are really good at auditing, the manager/partner from your team will try to keep you on their team because they don’t want to lose you. I just finished up my first year at a big4 as well and that list is very accurate to my observations as well. Write down everything. It’s really cool to see the accounting principles you learned in school being applied in the real world. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. One of the most stressful parts of auditing is waiting for stuff from the client. This means that the Big 4 ultimately provide fairly similar and comparable services throughout the world, which gives their employees fantastic opportunities to take the skills they have developed in one place and use them in another. Check out my gear on Kit: https://kit.com/hollihuckleberry I make videos about simple living, solo travel, and self love! It is expected that first year staffs do this work. Your audit team is the biggest factor that determine your work life balance and happiness. At Big 4, New York City, Chicago, LA, and San Francisco are some of the most sought-after offices for obvious reasons (more things to do outside of work, more famous clients, wider variety of client base). You are often limited to the client base available in your specific office. What if I told you that you can still have great careers after leaving public accounting before making senior... My rule of thumb for Big 4 peeps is stay for at least 2 years. There are no such guarantees at many companies on the corporate side. I got a few job offers during my first year after interviewing for some hedge funds and F100 companies. You are at the bottom of the totem pole. To those who have made a transition out of the Big 4, have you ever felt like you could relate to my issues? While I’m very early in my career, I know that audit is not for me. Some people whine about having to do bitch work which is dumb because you should have known this before you started. 3. During college, I did a corporate finance internship and I met one of the company bigwigs who told me that his first job during college was to pick up roadkill on the side of the highway. Give it a minimum of two years. u/lionsgate23. There are very few careers that allow you to start obtaining direct managerial experience by age 24. Having seniors friendly enough to coach you and take the time to teach you different things during the audit is extremely important in your first year. It may be more than 5 years before they even know your name. I give it 2 months... odds are it's probably public accounting that you hate. I'm not going to lie, this helplessness has taken a shot at my self-esteem and has effected the quality of my work. Primarily for accountants and aspiring accountants to learn about and discuss their career choice. If you don't it's time to go to industry and try something new. Can you elaborate? If you can leverage whatever network you have from school / family to get a better gig, there is a strong argument to bail on the Big 4 if you aren’t in accounting for the long haul. Everywhere you look, work/life balance will be better, and the pay is better too! They will help you build a resume, give you positions that are looking to hire, and arrange interviews for you. The Big 4 firms command a massive amount of respect in every industry and every country in the world. I had to adjust high expectations to some direct reports who are borderline GAAP illiterate. Going to the PwC Detroit office? What have a learned since? Also, nobody cares who your client is because most people have no clue what public accounting or auditing is. One of the biggest reasons people turn down these offers and stay with the Big 4 is because of the rapid advancement they know they will enjoy in the coming years. Networking to get on clients has gotten tougher and tougher as I'm slowly ousted into becoming a pariah that managers don't want to deal with or teach. And usually the bonuses in advisory are much better too. Also be careful when getting career advice from the higher ups. KPMG’s D.C and Mclean, VA offices basically own the government sector. As an auditor, the amount of travel you do depends heavily on the kinds of clients you get put on. Thank you. Friend left before his second busy season for accounting advisory position working significantly less hours for nearly double his salary. Should I mention where I’m going? Made no sense to stay with another opportunity and I haven’t looked back once. I will say one thing about the food. You are usually sitting in an AC office (at most clients :) ), have internet access, tons of free food, have a ton of autonomy and usually can come and go to some degree (you arent always 9 to 5 and using vacation to go do personal stuff like in industry). Would you jump? The Big 4 brand is well-recognized so you are an elite regardless of what service line you are in. You will find this at most any job. It took me about 9 – 10 months to start to get an idea of what I am doing and why I am doing it. Truthfully, I also felt I wasn't done with public yet and so I could kill two birds with one stone. Now all of my teams use doordash, or something similar. I did what I consider the bare minimum (3 years), and to be honest, I think it makes a difference. Big 4 gives you this opportunity for sure. If you take a job at a large corporation you might get the chance to work with the Controller after 10 or 15 years. That’s a hefty amount of money. anyone have experience with this? Thank you EA for giving me early access to this expansion prior to release at EAPLAY. I think my comments above make advisory at Big 4 look like it's not that cool and difficult to get. Don't let the stress get to you. Pay increases/promotion in private is much slower than the move-up(or move-out) cycle in public. Don’t limit yourself. The process is slow and usually they try to cut a deal with you to stay in audit for a couple more months or finish another busy season. The Big 4 firms have operations and offices in nearly every country in the world. If you have the ability and skills the sky is the limit. Many of the habits and ways of doing business you will pick up will stay with you for the rest of your life. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. At my firm, we would work constant 50-60 hour weeks in the fall, and Jan-April work 55-70 EVERY SINGLE FUCKING WEEK. Certain tasks are absolutely expected of people at each level, however if you are able to complete your assignments adequately you will be welcomed and encouraged to go above and beyond your current level. The audit is the same no matter what client you get. In my opinion, the only way to transfer to advisory from audit is by one of the following ways: (a) Your dad/mom is an advisory partner (b) Network aggressively with advisory professionals (c) Be an audit superstar so that an advisory manager notices you and picks you up.

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