What's fascinating about her, OP? Shanann was married once before she married Chris to a man named Leonard King, an attorney in North Carolina. LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. Doubtful, and is most likely the second (or third or fourth) time Shanann lies about medical costs to cover her ridiculous spending habits. That was the elusive diagnosis that put them in debt this time. As r47 says, this case is chock-full of CHARACTERS. And Shanann invites Josh and Cassie to live with them so Josh can get a job with Ace Hardware. She wanted the large house. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. She had DOUBLE Munchausen's! The interest must have been insane. r22, I saw some special on tv about the murders, it mentioned medical bills for her. I would love to have a conjugal visit Chris Watts! I followed the guy who was having an affair with Chris for over a year after he came out and he never changed his stories and would go on many details. So depressing. R231, thats a very good point. Everyones awful. They came out here with no jobs, no place to live, a house to sell in NC, and a wedding to plan in NC. Look up the Anadarko explosion that occurred at battery in Mead, CO, about 20 miles from Cervi 319, the battery Chris Watts buried his wife at, and at which he dumped his daughters bodies into tanks. Watts worked as an operator with the oil drilling company Anadarko. Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com Chris Watts, then 33, had grown distant from his family and was seeing a new woman. As an adult, your identity basics, like first name, are already established. The fact that she had 3 pregnancies when she'd told everyone her Lupus doctor said she'd never have children. He probably knew that already. Then, he crams them all down an oil tank. So all around, it would have been a lose-lose. She would have freakouts where hed have to drop everything to console her. Shanann was running another scam, Im positive. On November 6, 2018, Watts pleaded guilty to multiple counts of first-degree murder as part of a plea deal when the death penalty (which was later abolished in Colorado in 2020) was removed from sentencing. By Amy Mackelden Published: Oct 5, 2020. And a few people I know in real life. She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. Pediatricians screen for it as a matter of course. When the song ends, Bella blows the candles out on the round cake adorned with a butterfly on the side. Shannon Shanann Rzucek King Watts was a con. How does he go from doing their hair every morning and making sure they had baths & snacks everyday (and reading them bedtime stories, etc.) He was so clinical in throwing away his wife (understandable) but the kids? strangled daughters, megyn kelly, shan ann watts post, https://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - Speaking about their relationshiphttps://youtu.be/2MgUoKut3Us That was a detailed and well written article, R227; better than most others I have read about his new confession. Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. I feel its a form of abuse to film and live broadcast your family at all times. Those girls probably ate it all the time. Didnt like his Mustang, made him sell it. R144, Sure she fled. Identity is an interesting thing. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche], TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Visit the post for more. Im sure NK wasnt blaming everything on some imaginary disease (yes, I know lupus is REAL, but Shanann didnt have it). Shanann Cathryn Watts, 34 and daughters Bella Marie Watts, 4 & Celeste Cathryn Watts, 3 & unborn son Nico Lee of Frederick, Colorado, died on Thursday, August 16, 2018. ^ Why? But its true. The mother seemed to know or assume that her two daughters had staged the creepy dead doll, writing around 2.30pm: 'At least they covered the body together. [quote]Its my OPINION that people who mess around with their name are waving a red flag. She likely gathered up a down payment from the funds she embezzled from the rim shop, then didn't pay the mortgage. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. Selling prescription meds? And she had turned thee dining room into a clothing store with commercial racks filled with clothes. Discovery Documents Ex husband Leonard . Do there was financial issues going on. 107: Chris was cheating, so he had no power. The moral of this story? LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in Thrive. She was a miserable user. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280780/shan_ann-cathryn-rzucek, Jan 10 1984 - Passaic, Passaic, New Jersey, United States, Aug 13 2018 - Erie, Boulder, Colorado, United States, Bella Marie Watts, Celeste Cathryn Watts, Nico Lee Watts, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280791/bella-marie-watts, Clifton, Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, Frederick, Weld County, Colorado, United States, Bethesda Cemetery, Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States, North Carolina, Mecklenburg County Marriage Index, 1884-2019, Burial of Shan'ann C. King-Watts (Rzucek), Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States. Following the disappearance of Chris' wife, Shanann Watts, and the couple's two children from a small Denver suburb in 2018, a major police hunt ensued. And she had some scam going in CO. My guess is she was using the kids SS# to get clean lines of credit. Sandra Rzucek wrote that in her 2018 letter to the DA. But pronounce it HayZoos. Just the fact that she texted a friend, mulling about where to move should they divorce, (but not NC for some reason) tells me she was used to getting her own way. And there was that video of them where she encouraged them to smack Daddy! And just her overall demeanor that he was a dumb wallet for them to drain. But Colorado courts wouldve absolutely not allowed her to move out of state and take the girls, unless there was a good reason (my parents will provide day care for the kids - but they couldnt, since they both had to work) or Chris agreed. Someone on a FB forum had the same thing and said that their out-of-pocket/co-pay was like a thousand dollars. Even with a high-interest, low-limit card available to bankrupt consumers, they wouldnt be able to afford the airfares to NC for their summer trip! I remember there was some anti-Lularore/MLM site that had stories of men divorcing their wives due to MLM debt. The 33-year-old pleaded guilty to killing his wife Shanann Watts and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, in exchange for avoiding the death penalty as part of a plea deal. Anyway, its amazing that theres another chapter to this story; I wonder what the CO investigators could have possibly flown out to Wisconsin to hear, or what Chris could possibly think is big enough to have them come out there for. Im linking the other active DL thread (focused on Chris Watts) below. R220, did you see that house? However his mistress and HER boyfriend (Jim Gotuski), should also be in prison for the rest of THEIR lives. [post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Colorado believes a child has the right to love, support, and significant parenting time from both parents. Ill bet he tried so hard to keep his 401k funded. R162: A woman with a job equals whore in your world. On Feb. 18, over a span of five hours, Watts shared with investigators more disturbing details in how he killed his wife, Shanann, and their two daughters in August 2018. The woman who started googling Chris Watts and Shanann Watts just after the Mead explosion. "She had dreams to be fulfilled" and "wanted to be an exceptional wife and mother," the pastor said of Watts, 34. Authorities still do not know exactly what led Chris who was having an affair with a co-worker to kill his whole family that fateful morning, after which he went on TV news to plead for her safe return.". LEONARD was unable to get details from her. That's idiotic R70. [quote]Of course we can say nice things about her, too. I notice other than no longer wanting to be with him, he had nice things to say about her, she was a hard worker, people liked and were drawn to her and she got along well with them. Despite having the same triggers, we never had attacks at the same time. The amount received is based on the proportion each ex spouse earns, and the living arrangements for the children, and the poorer spouse gets the difference. Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. Being fascinated by all this doesn't mean we want to FREE CHRIS or Shan'ann DESERVED TO DIE, let alone the two innocents. Which is what no one can explain. Safe to say they were actually depending on Chris's 60k, which didn't cover their oversized suburban lifestyle. Back to Shan'ann, I think r154 has it right. Financially she had left him no way out. What was she doing? LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. In order to post it I had to resize it on a website to get a URL, because the google image links kept being rejected. Probably. ^ Um, yes she was. 05:02 GMT 17 Aug 2018 Chris pleaded guilty to the crimes that . The coldness is just stunning. Im male & a longtime DLer and you can MARY! me all you want to (Im sure I deserve it), but this confession is extremely emotionally upsetting to me to read. ^ to be fair, Trent Bolte has them all beat in the crazy department. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. She seems like an attention whore. Lupus usually involves disease and loss of major organs. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. That poster has a strange definition for cuter.. I thought it was very telling of Scam'Ann's personality: SHE, and she alone, will lord over the money; yet, she was such a financial liability that her name wasn't even on the house (and I'm assuming the mortgage.). Does anyone know when she began calling herself Shan'ann and why? It makes the story a little more interesting, that she wasn't the perfect victim. It does seem like a few people are looking to justify her murder so that they don't feel guilty about their attraction to Chris, seriously--but I'm assuming it's mostly tongue in cheek, since even if you can feel sympathy for someone snapping and killing a bitchy frau, there's the two innocent children and all r29 I believe Chris only made 60k/year and Shan'ann MAYBE made anither 30k with the Thrive! John Forbes officiating. Its something Borderlines do, although I dont think she was one. Her folks referred to her as Shannan at Chris's sentencing and she was named in thar lawsuit against the rim shop as Shannan King (her first husband's surname). Menu. I can't imagine after bankruptcy etc. American Murder: The Family Next Door focuses on the 2018 disappearance of Shanann Watts and her two young . LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. Chris Watts is not a sociopath. I asked LEONARD about his relationship with SHANANN. His brother's widow (Arie) spoke to an NBC affiliate station in NC that she was "sick over it" and that it was "heartbreaking." shit, and Chris made, what around 90,000 a year? Women like that can get him to do anything. And nursing school, befriending nurses and working in a childrens hospital? They owed Toys R Us a shitload of money. It was reported that she made $80,000 a year. I wonder if she might have used that Thrive crap on the kids. Only thing I can think of even though I dont think he has it in him is another girl. She stayed at home all day gaming while her wife worked full time at Kohls. We never had to go to the ER together. The two met in 2010 when Chriss Lee Watts was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. Sounds like he was interested in counseling but she wasn't really into it, I'm guessing. She was not confrontational and more withdrew. Has everyone already forgotten the sub prime mortgage explosion of the early 2000s? Nickole hadn't wanted to bother Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, as he worked out in the oil fields. And no one to root for except those poor kids. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. ^ Thanks for clarifying. 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