(Ref. so stop bringing religion into alcoholdrink what you like and leave the bigotry at the doorif people spent a few hours getting to know each other over a drink we wouldnt have half the discrimination we have today. A Mac computer geek thats too young to retire and too old for male prostitution. Bushmills, which refused to hire Catholics for many years has been actively trying to recruit Catholic employees of late, because the pay a wee tax penalty for lack of diversity in their workforce. As a good Roman Catholic, Ive always raised my Jameson in tribute to my Irish Catholic brethren (actually I like Jameson a little more than Bushmills anyway) until, on a recent trip to Ireland with my Irish-American Wife (nee Powers), I bought a bottle of Redbreast on a lark. Enjoy your whiskey and spare a kind word for everyone. The Fair Employment Commission gave Bushmills a clean bill of health. Contrary and challenging to the end- does this not sum up the Celtic spirit, whatever its origin or leaning? Im thankful for everyone who, New York City! ID was purchased by Pernod Ricard in 1988 and they sold off Bushmills to Diageo in 2005. It all comes down to politics in the grand scheme of things, be you Yank or Paddy. Peter Knox hit the nail on the head in #103 & Hey Bartender is right, giving a crap about what religion founded a whiskeys distillery is about as authentically Irish as corned beefFYI: not a single Irish person I spoke to knew had ever heard of corned beef, it wasnt in the grocery stores & certainly not on any menus. We dont live in the dark ages anymore, though clearly prejudice and ignorance persist. Well Kentucky used to be part of the state of Virginia, but that doesnt mean you blame the whiskey for something that happened in that state. However, the only brand of Irish I ever saw in the Balkans was Tullamore Dew. I dont generally buy it, but Ill drink it without complaint. It was one of the longest and most destructive conflicts in European history, resulting in millions of casualties. I was wondering when someone would ask this question. And as you can check from the email address I come from Finland, a protestant country. So, which Irish whiskey is Catholic? Period. I am also a fan of Tullemore and Black Bush. Michael Collins is a newcomer to the market place. Anyone try Kilbeggan Irish Whiskey? Looking for Irish Whiskey to use in a recipe for bread pudding I paid a visit to our local liquor store and inquired as to the best Irish Whiskey available. Right. Usually King James Version. This works in the same way that Protestants love their Guinness just as much as Roman Catholics in fact, I know a lot of Catholics who never drink the stuff. An Italian friend, when introduced to the term Uiske Beatha thought the word was bad water and now refers to it as Aqua Sporca or dirty water. Although some Protestants continued to make and sell alcohol, and many more consumed it, the pressure was . Mostly only Catholics or the nonreligious drink here. There was a big banner from the 80s in one of our meeting rooms that read boycott bushmills they discriminate because they were from the north they didnt use to hire catholic workers. Clean, fresh. I am going to be the bartender at my college prom, and need a drink that will be popular with the kids. It was largely untouched by the Troubles and paramilitaries. I hear that William Grant & Sons has a contract with LDI to have Tullamore Dew produced in Cork until 2025, so they will have to either be creative to release anything from the new distillery or have some mighty fine aged whiskey come the latter half of the next decade. Paid 10 Euro for a shot of it in Dublin, and well worth the price. I must have been misinformed. I am definitively a black bush person but I was mentioning that while spending a lot of time in Ireland back in 1998, I saw, while visiting the Bushmills distillery, cartons of Jameson bottles on the bottling chain. Im after trying many whiskies and Jamesons Gold is my current favourite, if a bit spendy. As regards the Catholic v Protestant whiskey debate. Apparently it is, or was, a thing among certain Irish-Americans to signal their genuine Irishness by refusing Bushmills and drinking Jameson, supposedly the whiskey of Catholics and supporters of the Republic of Ireland. Although, when faced with only Jameson and Bushmills, I will usually go for the Bushmills. And while the distillery had a larger proportion of Protestants than Catholics, this was down to the demographics of the area in which the town of Bushmills is situated which is largely a protestant area and the employment status reflects that. I tried Bushmills a couple of years ago and was surprised to find I liked it a lot, too. OK, OK, can be pretty good and certainly much cheaper. I grew up thinking I was half Czech and half Irish Catholic. Last I was in Ireland, about three weeks ago, I bought two bottles at a shop for 22 each. Not sure what Guinness has to do with this, but your claim goes against everything we were taught about him, but maybe history is just whitewashed for us Yanks. Whoever owns Paddys also owns one of these bigger brands and wont export to the US because they know they would cannibalize their own market share. The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. Potatoes for supper Im married to a Protestant and my best friend and fellow whiskey hound is a also one. My mother, an Irish protestant spoke hatred against the Catholics. Finish However, some of the buildings have been incorporated into the National College of Art and Design, and are now protected structures. As the rain pummels the ground here in the Pacific Northwest, a little window of blue sky nestled between two dark clouds in the neighboring distance makes me wish I were watching the rain fall from across a dark ocean, my little Caribbean fishing, Update! The good news is I dont have to worry about car bomb in Hicktown. One further chapter in the history that really debunks this myth is that between 1972 and 2005, both Midleton (makers of Jameson) and Bushmills were owned by the same corporation, Irish Distillers. Like Jameson, it is blended whiskey, some combination of pure pot-still whiskey with column-still grain whiskey (allegedly 70% pure pot still to 30% grain). It was fine w me, because the Jameson Distillery tour was fantastic. Paddy is a brand of blended Irish whiskey produced by Irish Distillers, at the Midleton distillery in County Cork, on behalf of Sazerac, a privately held American company. I can guarantee no one here in Dublin or Ireland gives a crap either way. Cant comment on the long term contract in Cork as I hadnt heard that, but I assume they have some sort of get out clause if there is a contract. DONT EVER ask an Irish person , north or south if they are catholic or protestant because they will look at you with contempt. If you read J.F. According to everyone Ive spoken with on the subject, you only really find this debate in the States, where Irish-American support of the Republic can sometimes be blind and often fueled by the very product were speaking of. The other part is that Powers is for everyone else who just doesnt give a f**k. Drink what you drink and like what you like. In 1989, Irish Distillers itself became a subsidiary of Pernod-Ricard following a friendly takeover. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. Jameson is always a great go-to, easy and smooth. Drink which ever you palette desires!! I grew up in NYC with this popular myth engrained on my conciousness. Starting with Bushmills which I am using as a warm up to my usual Wild Turkey 101. [2] Parents did their best to kill thatand they did. We intend to vigorously defend our position. [6] In 1855, his son Sir James Power, laid the foundation stone for the O'Connell Monument,[3] and in 1859 became High Sheriff of Dublin. 1 line was bottling Bushmills. I see. Enough said I thought, and bought the next round. As of 2016, Paddy is the fourth largest-selling Irish whiskey in the World. A fair amount of nonsense in some of these replies. Bushmills was my first taste of Irish Whiskey. Several years ago, I worked in Bulgaria and a couple of other Balkan republics; and found to my surprise that Irish Whiskey is somewhat popular there, though far outpaced by the ubiquitous Balkan hard liquors Rakija and Mastika. As long as its no longer going on in the company today then enjoy. Thanks, Mike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X85N-43REag. It was a big hit with my fellow pilgrims. As most Irish distillers use their barrels more than once, the color and bourbon flavor is thinned a bit once blended. This was a long term plan but theyve brought it forward by about 8-10 years. 1. Previous Post Elements Eight Rum What a treat. Youd probably get glassed if you asked the question in certain places in Ireland or Scotland. top off with chilled pulpy orange juice, AND stir lightly .. Cant believe this discussion thread is still going on since 2009! The 1608 license is not marketing shite, but did refer to the area of the town of Bushmills. If you want to support Ireland, go and visit and maybe read a few history books and hopefully realise that most normal people dont give a toss about religious leanings. Now, its important to note that the Scottish Reformation occurred in 1560, so odds are in favor of the founder of the Jameson distillery, being Scottish, was a damn Protestant. stupid fucks In response, Guzzi This bill . When asked to identify "the term commonly used to refer to the historical period in which Protestants broke away from the Catholic Church," two-thirds of the general public (65%) correctly chose the Reformation. Bushmills on one end, Jamesons on the other. The whole time I was in Dublin (or even while I was Belfast) I never once heard anyone say anything about any whiskey having a religion. No matter where it is produced. As an irish american raised in an irish roman catholic family I can say this: Jamesons one-time MD (CEO in the USA) was Andrew Jameson. Powers Gold Label is the best-selling Irish whiskey in its native Ireland. Jameson was moved down to cork and is my distilled in Middleton, though I believe it is blended in Clondalkin, which is a Dublin suburb. Im not sure that it says anything more than that it isnt a strictly American argument. Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean) | [7], In 1871, the distillery was expanded and rebuilt in the Victorian style, becoming one of the most impressive sights in Dublin. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant. The new Tullamore Dew distillery is up and running the past 2 years and back in Tullamore town. That was over 40 years ago. Bottom line Bushmills 16 yr has won my top pick in Irish whiskey over the 21 yr and Middletons, Redbreast and all the others. I like it very much and find it very smoothalmost like a scotch. Have a good one. In whiskey world Northern Ireland is considered to be part of the irish island so no reason to judge Bushmills to be protestant or not. one night. The Catholic Whiskey in Dublin was John Powers. Love Black Bush but Jamesons Gold Reserve gets my vote as the very best Ive had. I said, so youre Protestant? It makes things interesting. In Ireland theyd drink either, but rarely had enough money for more than a pint o the local beer. None of that means shit. wear my orange on St. Patricks Bushmills isnt produed deep in the heart of protestant country its produced on the north coast which is mixed catholic and protestant, sure the catholic stronghold Glens of Antrim are down the road. Its summer here in Oregon, which means barbecues, camping trips and river floats are on the agenda for the next few months. I no longer consider myself Catholic, btw. The fact that this blog has been going for so very long tells me the myth is true. Good luck and god bless Hun. His policies were considered heavily pro-Catholic. #103. [3] At the time the distillery had three pot stills, though only one, a 500-gallon still is thought to have been in use. This is an interesting thread and I have a few more now to try. Whiskey, or "uisce beatha" in the Irish language, is an integral part of Ireland and Irish culture. Class dismissed. I went to the Distillery in Tullamore(now a museum for the whiskey), it is now produced in Middleton, although it is no longer owned by Pernod-Ricard. Protestant - to 'protest'. @Allen: I think it show more the bigoted nature of your tour guide than it does Bushmills. Your grandfather may have lost friends back in the early 20th century to the Black & Tans and im sorry to hear that, but guess what? Bushmills didnt support the Black & Tans anymore than Jamesons supported the IRA! My growing up yearsnot virulently anti catholic just plain anti-catholic. Concept of Deity. Or champagne to protest Frankish aggression against the Gallo Romans. Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. . Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. The overwhelming majority of people in Ireland just want to get on with their lives, as they have always done and forget about this petty conflict. I was aware of the obvious problem with the claim that Bushmills is 'protestant whisky' but this gives a great insight. Arthur Guinness was a Protestant and a Unionist. Also, I understand that corned beef and cabbage is not a traditional Irish meal but it is a traditional Irish American Meal, particularly in the North East. If I was the kind of person who blogwhored, I would http://tinyurl.com/d92kdl [1], Historically, Powers Gold Label was the best-selling whiskey in Ireland. Catholic and Slovak-American, my personal preference is Jamesons. This was the time when Protestantism, through its definitive break with Roman Catholicism, arose to take its place on the Christian map. They also bottle Powers & Paddys as well. Irish whiskey comes in two forms, Catholic and Protestant. Ive always preferred the non-woodsy irish Whiskeys so Powers, Knappogue, Red Breast, and recently the Spots have been my drink of choice and never was a fan of bushmills. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. If you ever try a more exclusive blend or a single malt, dont dare poison it with ginger ale . Redbreast is my favorite but I only buy a bottle or so a year. Cake The northern Protestant states, angered by the violation of their rights to choose granted in the Peace of Augsburg, banded together to form the Protestant Union. It was their house label Irish before it was readily available in the US. The fact is that Jameson is the Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is the Protestant whiskey and this is according to people I know That live in Belfast. Spose its kinda like Rangers (hoik-phew) and Celtic FC really. Redbreast makes for good sipping but for my budget Powers is my standby. CATHOLICISM vs PROTESTANTISM!! To my certain knowledge and as am employee of Bushmills (and a Catholic by birth, but an atheist by choice), you are entirely mistaken. Terrific reading. Being good to people is the very best thing you can do for yourself. But until 2005 BOTH distilleries were owned by Pernod-Ricard. And, fact fans, the space-age Middleton distillery in the far south makes the neutral alcohol for the blends produced at Bushmills up North. Your email address will not be published. He was anti-Republican and his family was instrumental in organising the Orange Order in Dublin! Thanks for the clarification. In the mean time, the closest I can get to Ireland is my Bushmills and Guinness at night, and Kerrygold butter on toast for breakfast. Literal Meaning. Wow, not one mention of Tullamore Dew. Why not stop purchasing rum to protest Spanish aggression while you are at it. Besides, Id have to prove I can fill a job where the company cant find a local. 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Wexford, This page was last edited on 15 February 2023, at 23:21. Hats off to all the others. Im sure there were dodgy discriminatory practices based on race or religion in most big corporations in many countries in the past. This is wayyyy late, and I apologize, but the record needed to be set straight. I often wonder why those Irish-Americans (usually in Irish bars of Boston or New York)who bring up this absurd and frankly bigoted discussion about Protestant & Catholic whiskey do not apply the same rule when it comes to drinking that most Irish of drinks Guinness. Like seriously you hate us so much you wont drink our whiskey??? It is either good or it is not. Upon this one should decide which whiskey they prefer, and not upon any religous matter. Tullamore Dew, Powers, Paddy, Midleton Very Rare, Green Spot, and . I was a bartender in NY in the early 90s and in 98 moved to Kinsale Cork and bartended their for 4 yrs. But generally, if you like it sweet, you like Jamesons products (including Redbreast, 1780, and Powers) If you like it dry, youll prefer the Busmills lineup. I was raised Catholic by my mother after the parents divorced when I was three. Ginger cake, brazil nuts, treacle There is whiskey, and a whiskey drinker is a whiskey drinker no matter how they take it. No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys?. A great whiskey. 2nd line was bottling Jameson. Cheers! All appointments are made solely on the basis of merit.. Powers is my number one as the every day Irish whiskey of choice. One good friend turned to me and chuckled. The town of Bushmills is a black hole. As Jameson only uses the bourbon barrels once, the color and flavor is more reminiscent of American bourbon. I can see you have been horribly scared by the conflict. As someone who drinks her whiskey with ginger ale and a slice of lime, I definitely vote Powers over any other. 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